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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>pl patterns - Latest Comments in What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.disqus.com/</link><description>Programming Languages, Patterns, Life Hacking</description><atom:link href="https://plpatterns.disqus.com/what_web_frameworks_are_missing/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:03:16 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7114273</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I'm developing a free &lt;a href="http://ept.github.com/invoicing/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://ept.github.com/invoicing/"&gt;Ruby Gem called Invoicing&lt;/a&gt; -- it basically provides a miniature accounting and invoicing system inside your app, it's very powerful (flexible tax handling, multi-currency, support for resellers/affiliates) but easy to get started with too. At the moment it doesn't include particular payment method implementations out of the box, but I want to start including those soon. I am also working on integrating it with &lt;a href="http://oaccounts.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://oaccounts.org/"&gt;OAccounts&lt;/a&gt; a (work-in-progress) open standard for exchanging financial data between different accounting systems.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The important thing is though that with the invoicing gem, you end up representing the data in an accountant-friendly structure, without having to think like an accountant. And that makes things a hell of a lot easier when you start scaling the business and need to know what's going on in your accounts for tax, legal and management reasons.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Would love to hear your opinions on the Invoicing Gem; I agree that a standard framework is needed, and this is my attempt to contribute one to the community.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Martin Kleppmann</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:03:16 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7110215</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Totally agree. I am currently just about to release a site under beta and am considering a payment system for next release. The time required to implement something is frustrating when there are so many other features I should be implementing to give the site more value.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Dan</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:22:09 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7105689</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and thanks for the compliment for RailsKits! :)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Benjamin Curtis</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:50:21 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7105541</link><description>&lt;p&gt;With the release of Rails 2.3, the SaaS RailsKit will become easier to integrate to an existing project, as I'll be moving most (if not all) of the code into a plugin.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;At the moment, for an existing project, you'd pull the various models, controllers, and views over into your app.  I hear it takes about a day or two for people who have done that.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Benjamin Curtis</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:44:59 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7104822</link><description>&lt;p&gt;This might be what you're looking for: &lt;a href="http://github.com/maccman/saasy" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://github.com/maccman/saasy"&gt;http://github.com/maccman/s...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It's a Rails SaaS and SSO app.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">maccman</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:18:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7104672</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Haven't made it public yet. I'll post back when we open it up.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">kortina</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:12:50 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7104487</link><description>&lt;p&gt;ActiveMerchant is tried and true.  I don't think that Web Frameworks themselves need to include everything + the kitchen sink... I should be able to include whatever library I want to get that kind of functionality.  Who says that every website out there is created for paid content anyway?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">David Parker</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:06:13 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7104306</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Will do.  ... Do you guys have a website yet?  When you do, post it here.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jonathan Tran</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:59:08 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7104004</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I've been working on this with a friend and will have the beta version ready for developers sometime in April. Email me at gmail or dm @kortina to get on the beta list.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">kortina</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:47:29 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7103837</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I wrote about a &lt;a href="http://blog.pomelollc.com/2009/03/11/website-subscriptions-for-the-masses" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://blog.pomelollc.com/2009/03/11/website-subscriptions-for-the-masses"&gt;similar idea&lt;/a&gt; just a few hours ago.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">jboice</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:41:30 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7103437</link><description>&lt;p&gt;credit card payements are tied to a merchant account in a bank, and each payement gateway has its own methods and frameworks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;but this is right. I envision a startup providing this kind of service, acting as a middle-man who'd ease the setup and make it transparent&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Heri</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:26:14 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: What Web Frameworks Are Missing</title><link>http://plpatterns.com/post/85545826#comment-7103106</link><description>&lt;p&gt;What about ActiveMerchant? &lt;a href="http://www.activemerchant.org/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.activemerchant.org/"&gt;http://www.activemerchant.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It's written by the guy's who run Shopify, so it's been thoroughly tested in production.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jim Neath</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:13:07 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>